Dan Knight
- 2000.06.08
"Gullible Jim" writes:
I am currently attempting to type this email on the Performa 6218CD which I trustingly acquired
from a local used Mac dealer two weeks ago for $450 (gasp).
The package included a 28.8 modem, 15" Apple monitor, and 40 MB
of RAM. To say that I wish I had stumbled on Low End Mac before
that fateful decision is an understatement. I really got clipped by
someone I trusted. I was thinking about an iMac, but I just didn't
have the cash or patience.
After reading the great article
in Low End Mac thoroughly analyzing its road apple performance, I realized I
had really been taken. Everything in the article has proven true -
particularly on the Internet, where its lengthy processing times
really destroy its usefulness. It has proven to be truly the
caveat emptor Mac. I particularly appreciated the author's
clear explanations of the 6200 series flaws in layman's terms and
with informative detail. Right now I am getting typeahead problems
writing this email. If I had just known about your site before
plunking down the cash - but I didn't do my homework. No
excuses.
I think it was the features (CD-ROM, floppy, color
monitor, and decent amount of memory) that persuaded me to make the
purchase. I knew nothing about the Sculley design, multiple clock
speeds, etc. A 6100 or any other
PowerPC in the Performa series would apparently have been a better
buy.
I guess I am most disappointed in the seller - a local person
who deals in used Macs I had dealt with before on an SE/30. Why didn't he point me toward one
of the other Performa PowerPCs, or at least point out the problems
I might encounter when using the machine for the applications I
mentioned to him - Internet, etc.
The machine is a poor performer - but particularly a bad joke on
the Internet. I can type in a destination, go out to lunch or
dinner, come back, and it still isn't on the screen. Usually I get
an Error 11 or some other all purpose error code. The machine locks
up, and I have to reboot. I have tried repartitioning the memory
and other possible fixes, but I guess it is all of those processing
cycles the machine is running through plus the slow/multiple bus
speeds mentioned in the article.
What Mac and configuration would you suggest as a good present
day value. Can I possible salvage this machine to use on the
Internet, or is that impossible. If not, I have vowed to take my
loss on this fiasco and start saving for a good used machine to
replace it based on what I have learned from the great articles on
this site. I will probably donate this rig to a local school/church
for their students to use.
Thank you for any suggestions/help you might provide!
Warmest regards,
Gullible Jim (a true MacSucker)
I'm sorry to hear about your purchase. Manuel
Mejia forwarded this to me, since he has no experience with this
series of Macs. I have a little - very little. But I'm the one who
posted Scott Barber's technical
article on the "x200 series" and then adapted it for the layman
in the Road Apple section.
The good news is you've found Low End Mac and
learned that even Apple can make the rare dog of a computer. (My
apologies to dogs everywhere for that remark.) And of the handful
of compromised Macintosh designs, the x200 series was the worst.
All those unexpected symptoms you described were the reason Scott
Barber dug to the bottom of the problem.
If it's any consolation, in an average month over
1,000 people read that page and are warned away from the 5200-5300
and 6200-6320. Still, it's not common knowledge how poorly these
models perform. Your local dealer may not have been aware of these
issues. Give 'em the benefit of the doubt and see if they'll give
you a generous credit on something else.
If I were buying a used Mac on a tight budget, my first choice
would be a Power Mac 7500 or a
comparable clone, such as the SuperMac J700. These models accept a
CPU daughter card, so even if you start out with a 100 MHz 601
processor, you have the option of replacing it with a faster 604,
G3, or even G4.
For the record, we have three SuperMacs at home.
My J700 started out at 180 MHz and cost me $800 on close-out. It
now runs a 250 MHz G3. My S900
came bare-bones from Small Dog for about $300, then required a
video card, CD-ROM, hard drive, and more. It now has a G3/333 card
and probably cost me under $800. Finally, my oldest son has a
S900/200 we picked up used for a song - my local Apple dealer keeps
his eyes open for things like that. It's now running a G3 card a
372 MHz. Upgrades are easy and relatively inexpensive these
days.
Know the price range. Check
eBay,
AuctionMac, Small
Dog, MacResQ, and
Urban
Computer. We recently picked up a 7600 with a 132 MHz 604 processor, 32 MB of
memory, and a 2 GB hard drive for work at $450 from Urban, a deal I
still see listed on their site. Since you already have a monitor,
keyboard, and mouse, that could be the kind of deal you're looking
for.
Second choice would be a Power Mac 7100. It's slower and less
expandable than the 7500, but also tends to be a lot less
expensive. Urban is currently selling a 7100/66 with 16 MB RAM, 500
MB hard drive, and 2x CD-ROM for $199. It's a lot of computer for
the money and will feel faster and more responsive than your
Performa. If you do choose the 7100, try to find the 80 MHz version
with the AV card. (Urban also lists an 8100/100av for $299.)
Third choice would be a 6100, particularly the 6100av, which can be
hard to find. It's not very fast, not very expandable, not very
powerful. Count on outgrowing it within a year or so - but you can
often find them for under $100. At that price, it doesn't hurt to
buy a computer you'll outgrow.
If you can find good prices, you might also want
to consider the Performa 6360 (a
whole different motherboard than the x200 series).
You already know the worst Road Apples. Add the Power Mac 7200 to your list; there is no way
to upgrade it short of replacing the motherboard and buying a
daughter card - which will cost more than a used 7500!
If you do elect to buy from an auction site, don't
let yourself get carried away. If it goes over your budget and over
a realistic price, let someone else buy it. There are plenty of
good used Macs out there. I know; I've acquired a nice collection
over the years.
Mr. Knight,
Thank you for your helpful and sympathetic response!
In spite of the deficiencies of the 6200 series, I have come to
grips with my mistakes and have decided to make the best of it.
That being said, I purchased a SCSI Zip drive and an external
56k 3Com modem - both of which seem to be functioning properly at
present. As was mentioned in one of the excellent articles on Low
End Mac, I did have to remove the Global Village 28.8k modem which
was installed. Thanks to a book which I also purchased, "Upgrading
Macs," this wasn't too big of a problem. I carefully slid the logic
board out just enough to expose the GV modem and lifted it out
carefully (wearing a grounded wrist strap at the time). Amazed I
had the courage to try it. Then buttoned the machine back up and
fired it up.
I am currently using AOH (America on Hold) as my ISP, so I used
its settings to install the new modem. At first I used the
Concentrix CD-ROM that comes with the modem and installed Netscape
Navigator. I believe I goofed on this, as I didn't really
understand what I was doing and why (dangerous habit), and then I
removed it. Fortunately I had the system file protected at the
time, so it was just a case of dragging the application to the
Trash (I hope).
I love Macs, and although disappointed in my hasty and erroneous
choice of the 6218, I am learning a lot about the machine thanks to
your great website. Thanks again for your detailed and
knowledgeable advice and wealth of useful information.
Warmest regards,
Jim
P.S. The 56k modem seems to speed things up a bit on the
downloads, as before I was selecting a site destination, eating
lunch, coming back, and it still wasn't up on the screen.
