Getting IE 4.5 to Work with Low End Mac, 7200 rpm Drive Heat in an iMac, Upgrading OS X on a White iBook, and More
Low End Mac Reader Specials
Memory To Go Special: MacPro 8 Core Memory 4GB kit $154 / 2GB kit $94, New 2008 iMac 2GB $46. MacBook Pro / MacMini / iMac Intel Core2 DUO 2GB $44 / 1GB $23--Free shipping available.
Download Typestyler, still the Ultimate Styling Tool for Internet, Print and Video Graphics. Works great in Classic with a Native OS X Version on the way. Free Tryout: www.typestyler.com
LA Computer Company: LA Computer Company: Specials on AppleCare, Apple Displays, MacBooks, iMac's, MacBook Pros, Laptop and iPod accessories and more. Apple A/C Adapters for laptops starting at $25.00 Call 1-800-941-7654 or Click Here.
Other World Computing has the Upgrades, Enhancements, and Accessories for getting the most from your Mac. Quality Products, Competitive Prices, Expert Support Staff - www.macsales.com
Mac users can finally play Party Poker for Mac. Not only that, they can also learn how to play PokerStars for Mac.
Laptop Hardware Provided by TechRestore - Overnight Mac & iPod Repairs.
Compare products like desktop computers, laptops, and LCD TVs side by side! All the information and reviews to make the best purchasing decision for a new cell phone GPS products or MP3 players. The Ciao network makes searching products easy for you.
New iMac 800Mhz Memory 4GB $98, 2GB $50. Click to Maximize your Macs...
Dan Knight - 2006.06.29
- Re: Low End Mac Broken with IE 4.5
- Making IE 4.5 Work with Low End Mac
- 7200 rpm Drive Heat in Slot-loading iMac
- Upgrading OS X on a Dual USB iBook
- Problem Using SD Memory in PB 1400
Re: Low End Mac Broken with IE 4.5
Afte4r reading Low End Mac Broken with IE 4.5, Christopher M. Laspa writes:
Hi Dan,
I just finished reading the above article and couldn't agree more with your assessment of IE 4.5. Just the thought of it brings back migraines from the past!
As you already know, IE 5.17 works very well with your site, and I'm not sure why "Apathy" couldn't use it instead, as the install is just drag a folder to a surreptitious part of your hard drive, not visible to anyone but him. I know that MS has hauled 5.17 off their download area, but I happen to have a new '.smi' version handy - just in case - as this browser is still used as our first check (of many) of our web builds.
Regards,
Christopher M. Laspa
Creative Director, Principal
999 Art Direction
Toronto, ON
Thanks for writing. I'll share your offer with "Apathy".
Making IE 4.5 Work with Low End Mac
Christoph Trusch writes:
Hello Dan Knight,
I just wanted to mention that "apathy" will be able to scroll down the pages of LEM with IE 4.5 when (s)he unchecks "Show Style Sheets" in Preferences > Web Browser > Web Content. LEM will look weird (see attached screenshot), but at least the scrollbar appears and contents of the website are available for reading - although I'd also recommend to get rid of IE 4.5 altogether and use a better browser. IE 3 is no real option - it does let you scroll down with Style Sheets enabled, but the results look interesting, to say it kindly.
Best wishes,
Christoph Trusch

Low End Mac in IE 4.5 with Show Style Sheets checked

Low End Mac in IE 4.5 with Show Style Sheets unchecked

Low End Mac in IE 3.0.1
Thanks for not only sharing the solution but also taking the time to create the screen shots.
Dan
7200 rpm Drive Heat in Slot-loading iMac
Responding to Internal or External 7200 rpm Drive for Slot-loading iMac?, Tom Gabriel says:
Hi Dan,
I wanted to weigh in on this question with my experience.
I got a beaut of an iMac slot-load 400 MHz DV SE awhile back with a Seagate 7200 RPM drive installed I don't know how long ago.
I installed Sonnet's Metronome and Gauge Pro software CPU temp gauges a few months ago to check for CPU temps, which is where the trouble revealed itself.
After maybe an hour's use, depending on room temperature, the iMac CPU began drifting in temperature to 55 and even 58 degrees Celsius, at which point I'd put the computer to sleep for awhile to let it cool. So far there have been no problems with operation when it gets that high, but I don't like it. Top temp for the G3 is supposed to be 60 degrees C, as I understand it, and that's a bit too close for comfort.
The Seagate 7200 RPM drive is probably a couple of years old, and supposedly the newer 7200s run cooler, but I'm not secure about taking the chance.
I have a brand-new Maxtor 5400 RPM drive (40 gig) that I am going to install in the iMac when I get the nerve to open it up :-)
Convection-cooled CRT iMacs and 7200 RPM drives, at this point, from my experience, don't seem to cut it.
Best regards and keep up the good work!
Tom Gabriel
Thanks for sharing your discoveries, Tom. I have a Power Mac G4/1 GHz dual that sits behind a door in my computer desk. No, it's not a great desk design, and someday I'll have to add some vent holes to improve airflow, since there is no venting for the top half of this enclosure. When I run the G4 with the door closed, it will pass 58°C, but if I leave the door cracked an inch or so, it quickly drops by 2°C.
I've been running this way for months on end with no problems. The fact that you've seen no problems with heat in your iMac seems to indicate that everything should be fine as long as the CPU remains below 60°C.
Dan
Upgrading OS X on a Dual USB iBook
Responding to Upgrading iBook from OS X 10.0.4 to 10.1, Jim Strickland says:
I'm not clear on what the author of that question is trying to do. I have a G3/500 dual USB iBook and went from classic (9.mumble) to 10.4 in one leap with no problems. You will need more memory than the poor beast shipped with, and at least for 10.4, you may need an external firewire DVD drive, but other than those limitations, I found no problems at all.
-Jim Strickland
"So this is how liberty ends: with thunderous applause." - Padmé Amidala-Skywalker
Thanks for your feedback, Jim. You're right - Mac OS X has never liked running with 128 MB, although it can do so. For best performance with older versions, 256-384 MB should be adequate, but for 10.3 and later, 512 MB is a realistic minimum for decent performance. And more is always better.
Dan
Problem Using SD Memory in PB 1400
Jay writes:
Dear Dan:
I'm glad to see the topic of Compact Flash return to the mailbag. When I tried to add some memory to a PowerBook 1400, I got nowhere. What I did was put an SD (Secure Digital) memory card into an adapter in the PCMCIA slot. Do you think my problem was with the storage medium? (For example, are there differences between forms of flash memory that I should know about?) Or do you think my problem was with the adapter I used? (For example, are there different types of adapters?)
Thanks. Jay
P.S. Thank you again for the feedback you gave me earlier, explaining my iMac's inability to recognize its CD drive as possibly caused by a clash between the OS and the firmware. That was an explanation it would have taken me a while to figure out on my own, if I ever did.
Glad I could help with your iMac problem, Jay.
As for your PB !400 issue, it could be an incompatible adapter. There are two types of PC Cards that fit in the PCMCIA slot, and the 1400 doesn't support the newer CardBus standard. If your adapter is a CardBus device, that's your problem. You'll need to find a PC Card that works with SD but doesn't support CardBus if you want to use it with your 1400.
Dan
Dan Knight has been publishing Low End Mac since April 1997. Mailbag columns come from email responses to his Mac Musings, Mac Daniel, Online Tech Journal, and other columns on the site.
Recent Low End Mac Mailbag columns
- PowerBook Duo and DuoDock problems, no TPM on most Intel Macs, iTunes for Linux, and more, 07.17. Also a Mac mini that displays some Web images in grayscale, vintage Mac desktop patterns, where to sell a used Mac, dithered images, and more.
- Snow Leopard and TPM, OS and application commonality, two cents on Linux for Macs, and more, 07.14. Also Apple shouldn't charge $10 for new iPhone/iPod touch OS, Fedora Core 9 recommended, other VHS to Mac options, and vintage Macs everywhere.
- Opera trumps Safari, flashed video cards for Macs, hacking Leopard for G3 Power Macs, and more, 07.11. Also expectations for future MacBooks, more power than expected from a CPU upgrade, ADB and QuickCams, Snow Leopard and PowerPC, and more.
- More in the Low End Mac Mailbag index.
Recent Content on Low End Mac
- Mac malware count reaches 3, desktop PCs making a comeback, Mac mini in the living room, and more, Mac News Review, 07.25. Also the 'second coming of Apple' threatens Microsoft, McCain and Obama are Mac users, standing up for Steve Jobs, Apple and Acer tied for #3 in US market, and more.
- Best Power Mac G4 deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.25. Used 450 MHz AGP, $79; 533 DA, $100; 733 DA, $199; 1.25 GHz MDD, $375; 450 MHz dual, $200; 867 dual, $300; 1 GHz dual, $395; 1.42 dual, $500.
- Best iBook G3 deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.25. Used 366 MHz clamshell, $150; 500 MHz CD, $169; 600, $200; 800, $250; 600 CD-RW, $240; 900 Combo, $299; 14" 600, $360; 900, $449.
- Best Apple TV deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.25. Refurb 40 GB Apple TV, $199; new, $224; refurb 160 GB, $279; new, $322.
- Mac of the Day: 'Mirror Drive Door' Power Mac G4, Aug. 2002 - Dual CPUs from 867 MHz to 1.25 GHz on the most powerful Mac to boot OS 9.
- List of the Day: PowerBooks covers pre-G3 PowerBook users.
- July 25 in LEM history: 97: Dream Machines - 01: I'm not paying $20 for my OS X upgrade - Recording music on your Mac - The curse of being Apple - Guide to rare and collectible Macs - 02: Macs not just for designers - The iTools bait and switch - 03: The many failings of BuyMusic.com - Biking with a 'Book - 06: 2 weeks for repair is excessive - 23 reasons Zune is doomed - 07: iPhone: Apple's $3 billion cash cow - External video for a G3 iMac
- Could a minitower Mac be Apple's 'transitional product'?, Frank Fox, Stop the Noiz, 07.24. The Mac mini has been on the market for 3-1/2 years, and some owners are ready to move on to something more flexible and powerful.
- The compressed air keyboard repair, Charles W. Moore, Miscellaneous Ramblings, 07.24. If your keyboard isn't working as well as it once did, blasting under the keys with compressed air may be the cure.
- Best MacBook deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.24. Used 1.83 GHz SD, $825; 2.0, $845; refurb 2.1 GHz Combo, $949; 2.4 SD, $1,099; black, $1,299; new 2.1 Combo, $1,019 after rebate; 2.4 SD, $1,212 a/r; black, $1,394 a/r.
- Best iMac G5 deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.24. Used 17" 1.6 GHz Combo, $450; 1.8, $500; SuperDrive, $530; 1.9 iSight, $630; 20" 1.8 GHz, $580; 2.0, $650; 2.1 iSight, $700.
- Best iPod touch deals, Low End Mac Deals, 07.24. Close-out 16 GB (2007), $350; refurb 8 GB, $199; new, $289; refurb 16 GB, $299; new, $370; refurb 32 GB, $429; new, $475.
- More links in our archive.
back to the Low End Mac Mailbag index
About LEM | Support | Usage | Privacy | Contacts


