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Support for Modern Internet Services Dwindles for Older Macs
Charles Moore - 2004.11.29 - Tip Jar
Sometimes what seeming like the simplest things can become very complicated. I was delighted when Google added POP3 support to their Gmail email service.
On a rural phone line that supports 26,400 bps dialup connections on a good day, a webmail interface just doesn't cut it. POP3 support makes Gmail really usable under these circumstances.
So I thought I would get a Gmail account for my wife. Signing up was no problem, but POP3 access proved to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated.
My wife uses a 117 MHz PowerBook 1400 running Mac OS 8.6. She uses Eudora 5.1 as her email client. Gmail's POP service requires Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) support, which Eudora 5.1 has, so I figured we were good to go. However, once I had an account configured, I discovered that Eudora 5.1 would crash every time I tried to check the Gmail inbox.
Okay, I thought, maybe a newer version of Eudora would have less buggy SSL support. I downloaded Eudora 6.1, which is the last Eudora version that supports the classic Mac OS - but not OS 8.6. It wanted OS 9 or newer.
My wife's PowerBook has a one gigabyte hard drive with three partitions, two of which had operating systems installed - the aforementioned OS 8.6 and also 8.1. I decided to replace the OS 8.1 installation with OS 9 or OS 9.1.
I stuck an OS 9.0 install CD in the drive, which proceeded to click and grunt for several minutes before the volume icon appeared on the desktop. I trashed OS 8.1 from its partition, but OS 9.0 is a lot larger than OS 8.1, so I had to move a lot of stuff to other partitions in order to make room.
That done, I started the install process. But a few minutes in, things ground to a halt, and an error dialog appeared informing me that the installation had been unsuccessful and had been terminated.
Okay, that OS 9 install CD is pretty old. Maybe it was the problem.
I popped in an OS 9.1 install CD. The old CD drive made some more feeble, pathetic sounds, but it refused to spin up that disk at all, let alone mount it. I began to suspect that the CD drive had some issues.
I looked around and spotted an old Apple CD-300 tray-loading CD-ROM drive that had been pulled from some old desktop Mac. The sticker on it said it was manufactured in 1994.
Now for some way too connect it to the PowerBook.
I had also considered trying to hook the 1400 up to my WallStreet or SuperMac S900 using PowerBook SCSI disk mode, but I've never had much luck getting that to work with this particular PowerBook, so the CD-300 drive sounded like a more promising workaround.
I rummaged and came up with and ancient tape
backup drive case with a SCSI interface. The tape drive guts were long
gone, but the power supply and SCSI connection cables were still there,
along with two Centronics 50 ports. The CD-300 drive was way too big to
fit inside the tape drive case, but the internal cables were plenty
long enough to work with the drive perched on top of the unit.
I rustled up a DB25 to Centronics 50 SCSI
cable, an HDI 30 PowerBook SCSI dock adapter, hooked everything up, and
started the PowerBook. I inserted the OS 9.1 CD in the CD-300, closed
the drawer, and the volume icon promptly showed up on the desktop.
Actually, nine volume icons showed up on the desktop. Something was obviously not quite right - I suspect that the SCSI connection might have wanted an inline terminator, but after closing all but one of the open installer windows and clicking the installer icon, the process commenced.
Then I discovered that OS 9.1 is even larger than
OS 9, so even more stuff had to be transferred off the partition.
Once that was done, the installation went fine.
I disconnected the makeshift CD-ROM drive and booted the PowerBook 1400 into OS 9.1. It started up fine, but a dialog appeared telling me there wasn't enough memory to start up with extensions on.
Oh yeah, I remembered - OS 9.1 wants more than 30 MB of RAM just to boot. The old 1400 has 36 megabytes of RAM. I busied myself disabling extensions, but even with a relatively skeletonized set, the 'Book still wouldn't boot with extensions on.
Into the Memory control panel, where I assigned the largest block of free hard drive space to virtual memory - a princely 72 MB. That was enough to boot the machine into OS 9.1 with extensions on.
Cool. I was making progress. But why was everything happening is slow motion? I mean even slower than usual - the 1400 is, uh, leisurely at the best of times.
I installed Eudora 6.1, but the installer informed me that I also needed CarbonLib 1.6 in order for the program to work. That could be found on Apple's website at the URL conveniently provided. Or not.
Why does a company that makes such elegant hardware and software have such a chaotic and user-unfriendly software support site?
Just asking.
After several go-rounds with the search engine, I finally found a download link for CarbonLib 1.6, downloaded it, ran the installer, and rebooted.
I started Eudora 6.1, configured an account for Gmail, and tried to connect. It didn't crash the way Eudora 5.1 had, but it didn't work either. Perhaps some sort of configuration problem, but I couldn't see anything amiss, and Gmail works fine with Eudora 6.2 on my iBook seemingly configured the same way.
However, I was coming to the conclusion that it really didn't matter anyway, because OS 9.1 on a 117 MHz 603e with a 33 MHz system bus and 36 megabytes of RAM was not going to be usable.
To say that you could outtype the system was an understatement. Every function had a time lag as the system dipped into virtual memory. I gave up and booted back into OS 8.6, which is lively by comparison.

So my wife still has no POP3 support for her new Gmail account. I think I've figured out why it won't work with Eudora 5.1. In Eudora 6.2, the SSL Settings dialog has two fields for Port SSL Negotiation that are not present in the Eudora 5.1 SSL Settings. I assume they are there for a reason, but it appears to be a dead end for the present.
The moral of this tale is that for Internet use, these old Power PC Macs are getting pretty marginalized. Only one browser, iCab, is still being actively developed for Classic (or two, if you count WaMCom hack of Mozilla 1.3). (Download WaMCom here.) The latest version of Eudora no longer supports Classic, and support for new Web services like Gmail are becoming tenuous.
Charles Moore has been a freelance journalist since 1987 and began writing for Mac websites in May 1998. His The Road Warrior column is a regular feature on MacOpinion, and he is a news editor and columnist at Applelinks.com. If you find his articles helpful, please consider making a donation to his tip jar.
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