Excellent article - Many thanks!
From Michael Sohaski
Dear Charles,
Thank you for your excellent article on living Microsoft free!
I do have a quick question for you. You describe 9.1 as a rock w/o
the MS software. Is your experience with OS X similarly as rock
solid?
Best wishes,
Michael Sohaski
Hi Michael,
Glad you liked the article.
Your question is tough to answer briefly. The OS X
system is quite stable, although not entirely free of glitches and
bugs. However, most application software for OS X is not terribly
polished, and there are bugs galore. It's definitely what I would term
a more *ragged* user experience than the legacy OS at this stage of the
game.
Check out my OS X Odyssey series on Applelinks for
more specifics: http://www.applelinks.com/news/odyssey/
Charles
M$ Free
From Robt Freed
Right on, Charles. Beware of the Dark Side!
I keep only Word 5.1, and maybe that's just for old
time's sake. At least Word 5.1 came from an era when M$ hadn't really
gotten its clumsy spyware agenda rolling yet. 5.1's probably safe
enough. Nothing like Outlook Express, hacker's delight.
M$, through products like Word, IE, and now especially OE, just
keeps crankin' away, collecting our data by poking around in folks'
otherwise private business, peering through alleged previously
undetected "security holes" which turn up all too often. I think M$
being the "weakest link" is probably just part of their plan. Brrrr.
Well, it's almost New Moon again anyhow...
Written in Claris Emailer, OS 9.1.
Robt Freed
Hi Robt,
I've recently found a new use for Word 5.1 - it opens
RTF documents produced by OS X apps.
Charles
Living Microsoft free...
From B.J. Major
Hi Charles,
I could not have put it better, what you said in your article. I,
too, as a Mac user, have been living very happily MS free for over a
year as well. ClarisWorks/AppleWorks is a tremendously underrated app,
as is Nisus Writer.
The only major complaint I have about Netscape as a browser
substitution is that it won't let me alphabetize my bookmarks at all.
They always look so out of order to me. That was so easy to do in IE.
It also won't allow me to copy and paste a bookmarked URL into another
app the way IE would.
The only thing I haven't done is remove the MS System Folder items -
glad you mentioned that; I'll definitely do that as well. I have no
doubts that would contribute to a more stable System!
While I have no doubt admitting that MS wrote some of their best
stuff for the Mac back in the 1980s (when they actually supported the
platform and before they decided to make Windows), with Word 4 and 5.1
being my own favorites, I too despise their business tactics and
complete lack of ethics in the marketplace. I can't in conscience
support a company that does business like that. One day their greed
will do them in, and I can't wait to witness it.
-bj
Hi BJ,
Interesting how different features are important to
different people. I wasn't even aware that IE could alphabetize its
Favorites list, even though I used IE for several years. ;-)
Charles
Microsoft crap
From: Matthew Chappell
Dear Mr. Moore,
I have just read your recent article on Microsoft free Macs, and I
agree wholeheartedly. The reason I am writing to you is to find out if
you know of a decent newsgroup client for OS X, as I must use
Outlook Express for that. To add insult to injury, the program isn't
even OS X native yet.
Mail, OS X's default email program, works pretty well, and, apart
from the lack of a newsgroup client, it works pretty well.
But with Internet surfing, I am forced to use Explorer. It is the
only browser that I know of that will save the entire contents of a Web
page and reproduce it off line accurately. I've tried Netscape and
OmniWeb, but such facilities were not available. Unfortunately as well,
Explorer was also faster.
I would love to free my machine from what very well could be the
Beast prophesied in Revelation, but it's not easy. Thus, could I
partake of some of your worldly wisdom?
Thanking you in advance, and please keep up the excellent
articles,
Matt Chappell
Hi Matt,
I don't use newsgroups myself, but I think that
Mozilla/Netscape supports them, and Mozilla might be a partial answer
to your browser dilemma as well. I really like it, especially the
OS X version.
If anyone in readerland can suggest an alternative OS
X native newsgroup client to Matt, let's hear from you.
As for Web archives, iCab supports them, too, and
there is even a free, downloadable utility that will convert IE Web
archives to iCab.
Charles
IE experience
From David Deckert
"However, that doesn't explain why Mac users have to
use Internet Explorer for browsing or Outlook Express/Entourage for
mail when file compatibility is a non-issue in either case. There are
plenty of non-Microsoft browsers and email clients available that work
just fine."
Charles,
I appreciate all you do for the shareware community by constantly
admonishing Mac users to find alternatives to MS. More people need to
know what other choices are out there beyond just what their Mac came
loaded with. Keep it up, please. You and I share an admiration for
SweetMail, for example.
The problem is, nothing is that cut and dry. Your paragraph above,
and your other comments concerning stability, are coming from limited
experience. You stopped right after the best MS browser was
released.
Sorry if you didn't like it, but you didn't use it long enough to
properly gauge it's stability nor its usefulness. You've said many
times how you dropped IE 5 after a short while. It ain't perfect, but
it blows away earlier versions and throws into stark relief the
antiquities of Navigator's 4.x funkiness. And I'm not referring to the
way the two browsers look.
BTW, IE 5.1 introduces no extensions to your Extensions folder. It
keeps everything in its own folder. Even OE 5, which puts 4 extensions
in the Extensions folder, will work fine after moving them to the OE
folder.
I understand your system runs better now without MS software. I
acknowledge it was the right decision for you. What you don't admit in
print is that your experience might just be that - your
experience. To be fair, you need to include something to that effect in
your articles, otherwise you sound either uninformed or uncaring. You
got out of the game but still keep writing about it!
I found Chris Lawson's recent browser
comparo on LEM interesting. I felt he was honest, and this was a
tough call since the pickle has never been a big IE fan. How about
spending some time with IE 5.1 and the latest Mozilla .99 and report
back. Caveat: Do it under OS 9.1 or 9.2.2. IE 5.1 doesn't always play
well with 8.6. There's your IE5.1 bug report.
I run MS' current Internet software on my iMac (9.2.2) for several
hours everyday and have to reboot once every few weeks, but it isn't
because IE or OE or Entourage puked and took down the OS. I have stated
to you, Dan Knight, and others several times I find IE to actually
force-quit very gracefully, reliably contrary to what I constantly read
from you. Am I the only person with a heavily loaded Mac that doesn't
have problems with IE? Is that likely? Or merely your experience?
Regards,
-David
Well, David, I forget exactly when IE 5 came out, but
I think it was in early 2000, so I had it around and used it a fair bit
for more than six months. Didn't like it from the start - I liked IE
4.5 better.
As for stability, countless others, including several
of my Mac Web tech writer colleagues, have told me they've experienced
the same thing; banish the IE shared libraries and whatnot from the
System Folder and stability improves.
However, as I said clearly in the article, my
principle reason for boycotting M$ software is ideological. Even if
Microsoft demonstrably made the best Mac software in the world and gave
it away (and they do, of course, give away IE and OE), I still wouldn't
use it out of disgust for their business ethics and power lust.
Charles
Microsoft-free
From William Baltyn
Charles
I read your article on Low End Mac and agree totally; I have
endeavoured to be MS free too. Under OS 9 this was no problem, but
I am having difficulty in OS X.
In its preferences, Internet Explorer for X has options for changing
helper apps, e.g. FTP and so forth. This functionality used to be part
of the Internet control panel (in OS 9) but is no longer. No other
browser for X has these preferences, and I know of no 3rd party apps
which do the same.
I just wondered if anyone else knew how to set these helper apps
without using IE?
Regards
Will Baltyn
Hi Will,
I don't know. I've never really made much use of the
integrated helper apps. feature in the legacy OS. I use a freestanding
application for ftp.
Anyway, if anyone can help, please let us know.
Charles
Micro$oft
From dxtr
Hi Charles,
And I quote
"I decided to purge all Microsoft software, save for
my ancient copy of Word 5.1, from my hard drive. That basically meant
getting rid of Internet Explorer (by then version 5, which I didn't
like anyway) and Outlook Express, along with all the shared library
junk they had dropped into my System Folder . . . even if the
company's business ethics and hegemonistic ambitions don't offend you.
"Microsoft, You are the weakest link. Good-bye . . . And if
you need to open the odd Word document with formatting intact, there's
the handy little icWord shareware utility for that."
All means everything. Take the leap to be totally M$ free - get rid
of Word, too!
seeya
dxtr
Hi dxtr,
Thing is, I used MS Word 5.1 as my main word cruncher
for five years, and I have literally thousands of Word documents on my
hard drive that I need to be able to open with formatting intact for
archival and reference purposes sometimes.
Charles
It's proven itself
From Alvin Chan
Hi, we share the same thoughts with no PC products if we can.
Though, today I would just like to love them all, limit it to one and
two at most. We really only need one, the best. Microsoft as well as PC
programs generally has proven itself to be just good, but if we want
the best Apple products generally are the best. I believe this is so
because it was the first to pioneer things and because of that others
who are inspired will have to compromise with some of the classic
design of Apple. This is why Microsoft and PC products are mostly
compromised. They cannot copy everything for legal reasons.
I have used IE 5 too, it's more compatible but not significantly
better, and I have peace of mind using Netscape - it looks better and
has better mailer than Outlook or Eudora, priority on ease of use.
iCab, Opera, OmniWeb doesn't have a mailer and IM. It has to be one
with security in mind as well and mail, Netscape is the best to go.
AppleWorks, too, is the easiest compared to Word, Nisus Writer, but
not WordPerfect, as it pioneered the word processing with ease of use.
AppleWorks has to compromise with after WordPerfect. AppleWorks does go
with Aqua and is not significantly worse than WordPerfect. The font
manipulation with AppleWorks is terrible though, they're inside the
menus. The more you hide things frequently used things, the harder it
is to use.
Some may be more powerful than Apple's product, like Media Player
where it is a movie player, too, and all that as opposed to separate
programs of QuickTime, iTunes, Picture Viewer which I believe should
all just be in QuickTime because that's the pioneer. Windows Media
player has to compromise making things cluttered which is also a
problem in Winamp because Apple has already taken, minimal, elegant but
powerful design both on hardware and software.
To make it minimal, elegant, and powerful, Apple shows only the most
frequently used, which shows love for neighbors or in this case the
users which include themselves. Apple loves it's neighbors, which is
good way to do things because God bless a few of it.
I'm trying to go all OS X in the future and would use Metacreation
products which I tracked down to the new owners so that it would go
with Aqua which I believe licensed Kai's interface but did not say it
anyway. The Aqua buttons look like the one from Kai's Photosoap. I plan
to use, though some may just be stucked for OS 9. I choose their
programs because Kai has pioneered interfaces that was ahead of it time
but is the right time now with Aqua's popularity. They are:
- Photosoap: editing pictures
- Studio Carrara: 3D animation and creation Art Dabbler - drawing
(which I have now)
To complete things out I use now:
- Netscape
- AppleWorks
- QuickTime (I hope they integrate iTunes, picture viewer and the
DVD/CD stuff to this pioneer)
Others I wish would be aquafied and be close to Kai's interface:
- Virex
- DiskWarrior (haven't seen this yet, I hope it is aquafied
already)
Though there are the WordPerfect LE and CorelDraw LE, they don't go
with Aqua and not significantly better than the ones above.
It's possible not to have softwares from Microsoft. Though it should
also be loved but it's because we only need one though we need to know
how to use those too because we will use it also.
God bless,
Alvin Chan
Philippines
Word 5.1a & 9.1
From James Lindley
Dear Mr. Moore,
I agree with your assessment of recent MS applications and their
swarm of extensions in regards to Mac stability. I loaded Word 2000 on
a trial basis because I thought Word 5.1 would not be compatible with
9.1, and I assumed that it would allow me to import my lengthy address
book (the envelope addressing feature). Much to my surprise, it didn't!
On top of that, it took up 125 MB of hard disk space. That alone told
me it was filled with junk. Nisus was not an option, because there is
no import filters for it in PageMaker 6.5 or QuarkXpress 4.1. (oddly
enough, there are filters for WordStar and other long expired
programs). I was pleasantly surprised to find that Word 5.1 still works
fine on 9.1, although I'm worried that it may have unexpected behavior
that I haven't noticed yet.
However, you did mention that patches exist for the use of Word 5.1
on 9.1. Where can I find them?
JWL
Hi James,
I've been told they exist, but I don't have them, and
despite an intensive search of my files and the best efforts of
Google.com, I haven't come up with a source for you.
Readers?
Charles
Getting rid of MSIE
From: Herb Goodfriend
I do use iCab (latest version) almost all of the time, but a few
secure pages still seem to be inaccessible with iCab, so for these I
use Internet Explorer. Also, some pages seem to format themselves very
poorly in iCab (the objects being strung out in a long vertical when
they should be side-by-side), which does not prevent me from using iCab
but is annoying.
I haven't tried Netscape much (don't know why, but I don't
especially like it), and when I downloaded and installed Mozilla
several versions ago (9.2?) it trashed all my iCab preferences and
froze the machine. I will probably try it again soon, but meanwhile I
am still using Explorer about 2% of the time.
Herb Goodfriend
Hi Herb,
Yes, JavaScript implementation is still not complete
in iCab, and I have noted the same phenomenon on a few pages. I just
switch to Mozilla when that happens.
The latest, 0.9.9 build of Mozilla is pretty nice in
both OS X and the legacy version.
Charles
Living Microsoft Free
From Chuck Underhill
Hi Charles,
I just read and very much enjoyed your article about purging your
Mac of all Microsoft products. I can't say that I agree with doing
that, or your opinions on Microsoft itself. But the article was both
highly enjoyable and well written.
Thanks for adding to my enjoyment of LEM!
Chuck Underhill
Delighted that you enjoyed it, Chuck, even if I didn't
convince you.
Charles
Living without Microsoft (and Upresent
question)
From Steve Wassenich
Charles,
Bravo! If we could convince the U.S. government to live without
Microsoft, I'd be happy. As it is, my home is a Microsoft-Free Zone (at
least for the moment), but I'm still shackled to it at work. We all
have our crosses to bear....
About that "for the moment" above: My wife wants an iceBook, which is good. She
needs to create and display presentations for teen-agers and would like
some razzle-dazzle to keep the video generation interested, also good.
Unfortunately, the organization with which she is associated wants to
be able to view, copy, play with, etc., the files she creates, and
they're stuck on PowerPoint. In fact, they're so deeply infected that
they almost consider "PowerPoint" a synonym for "presentation." This is
definitely not good. AppleWorks 6.2 translates and writes Word and
Excel, and it can do presentations, but the razzle-dazzle is limited
and it doesn't speak PowerPoint.
In your article, you mentioned Upresent, which I've not heard of.
Can it can read and write PowerPoint format and do interesting
transitions between slides? If so, it could replace PowerPoint and my
home could continue Microsoft-free. Otherwise, I'll have to allow The
Beast a foothold.
Thanks.
Steve Wassenich
Hi Steve,
Here's the scoop on
Upresent. I have not used it myself (I've never had any call for
doing presentations), but it sounds good. As for your read/write
PowerPoint documents, I simply don't know. I'm sure than CodeBlazer's
tech support folks would be happy to tell you.
Charles. �
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