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Eudora 'Works Great' in Leopard

From Bob, continuing the conversation in MailForge Still Not Ready for Everyday Use:


Thanks for the response. I thought that maybe it was something that I had done or not done.

I continue to use Eudora 6.2.4 on my PowerBook G4 running [Mac OS X] 10.5.8. It works great, but since Qualcomm has "dropped" it, I was hoping that MailForge would do the job. I don't like Mail either, so I guess I'll be sticking with Eudora for now.


Hi Bob,

At least Eudora 6.2.4 still works for you. It works great on my G4 Pismos running OS X 10.4.11; not so much on my Unibody MacBook running OS 10.5 and 10.6.


Eudora 6.2.4 with OS X 10.5 and 10.6

From Farokh:

I just read your comments about Eudora, and while it's not ideal and occasionally has done some wonky stuff, Eudora 6.2.4 continues to be my main workhorse mail application, and I've used it on every version of OS X since 10.0 up to the current 10.6.4. I do run Apple's (mainly as an exchange client - not perfectly, but sufficiently okay for what I need) as well as MailForge (mainly in testing mode using one of my many email accounts). I have to agree that MailForge is not ready yet to replace Eudora.


Hi Farokh,

It's encouraging to hear that you've been able to keep Eudora 6.2.4 in service through OS X 10.6.4.

Have you tried MailSmith? It's not without some angularities, but I've found it a happier camper on my Intel Mac than Eudora 6.2.4, and use it for some of my accounts.


Eudora on Leopard and Snow Leopard

From Dan:

I take exception to the recent comments about Eudora not working on Leopard and Snow Leopard, as I use it as my main email app on both a Mac mini running Leopard and a MacBook Air running Snow Leopard (both Intel). Eudora just works and has since v1.2, for me.

As to MailForge, I, too, haven't been able to get it to work. I've tried futzing w/ it w/o any success.


Hi Dan,

I'm happy to hear that you've been able to keep Eudora working with Leopard and Snow Leopard.

I just now started up Eudora 6.0.4 to refresh my memory as to the issues. The program loads okay, but it refuses to send test messages or download mail from an account that I've verified is working just fine in another email client. I'm currently booted into OS X 10.5.8 on my 2 GHz Unibody MacBook.

My best guess is that there's something about my ISP that Eudora doesn't like from the MacBook in Leopard or Snow Leopard. It still works great in OS X 10.4.

I too date back to Eudora 1.2 :-) .


Firefox 4 and OS X 10.4 Tiger

From Gavin, following up from Firefox 4 Beta Optimized Builds:

I did [try Firefox 4 with OS X 10.4 Tiger], but 4.0b3 only gives an error message.

Unfortunately, it looks as if Tiger's browser support is about to drop off altogether with Safari 4.1 and FireFox 3.6. Tiger is a very fast and stable version of the Mac OS. It will be a sad day when browser support is cut off entirely.

I'd also like to say thank you for all the work you put into LEM. I read the LEM history articles literally every day and always look forward to a new one, especially ones by you and Dan Knight.


Hi Gavin,

Thanks for the kind words. My pleasure, and I'm sure Dan's too.

Thanks also for the Firefox 4 on Tiger report, which mirrors my results. Oddly, the Firefox 4b5 release notes page still shunts you to Firefox 3.6 and claims OS X 10.4 Tiger support. Evidently an oversight.

FWIW, Apple released a Safari 4.1.2 for Tiger update on Tuesday.


Bringing Back a Dead Pismo

From Steve, following up from My Pismo Won't Come Back from the Dead:


Thank you for taking the time to reply. I bet the last few days have been a busy time for you.

I don't think it is the drive, because it happens with it removed and tests good in external housing.

I might spend a few bucks to try a CPU card; they are pretty cheap on eBay from what look to be trusted vendors.

I will look to see if I can find a working unit with a bad screen - that should make a good parts machine.

As I remember, you were told by someone at Wegener Media that often when the power board, goes the logic board does too, so I guess if the CPU isn't the problem, I will change out both the logic and power boards.

Thanks again


Hi Steve.

Yes, busy... ;-)

I agree that Pismo CPU daughtercards are so easy to change that it's worth a shot if you can find one cheap. Changing logic boards and power manager boards not so much.

Wegeners also told me that a failed power manager board is likely to take out the logic board. I ended up buying a stripped-of-the-easily-changable-stuff Pismo from them and swapping the bits over from the ailing unit. An easy fix, and reasonably priced. The replacement machine hasn't missed a beat in two years now.


iPhone 4 Case Conundrum

From Alvin:

Hi Charles.

How are things there? My iPhone 4 will arrive this month, and if it didn't break so easily, it not having a case would look better - but it needs a case. Some say the best protection is an iPhone 4 insurance, but I can't find one who'll insure the phone that also caters to the Philippines.

I've been researching for months trying to chose cases that have the balance of style and drops protection. I tried leather cases here, but the flap will get in the way on how I use my iPhone. The best protection are from OtterBox and Ballistic, but they are too thick for the jeans' slim fit.

I'm interested in this case, but would you know if you could buy that from AT&T online and if they will ship to the Philippines (I just think this protection is cool, soft outside, hard inside just like our own body):

Or this is only for those who bought they iPhone 4 from AT&T?

If that's not possible, which one do you think among these would protect the iPhone 4 from drops (iFixYouri sure opened everyone to buy cases with their drop test videos) or if you were me which case do you feel you would choose:


P.S. What case do you use for your iPhone 4?

Hi Alvin,

Those are all nice cases. The LTD Tools one looks very rugged, but is pretty expensive. The Exovault also, and it claims to be the strongest. The Exovault brass model would be very cool in a retro/steampunk sort of way. You seem to be partial to metal cases. Personally, of the ones you mentioned, the Grove bamboo cases grab me the most aesthetically, but I like wood.

The AT&T case is priced reasonably, but it's unclear as to whether they would ship to the Philippines. I would suggest either going through the ordering procedure on their website or emailing their customer service to see what happens. You haven't committed to anything until you enter your credit card number.

Incidentally, OtterBox makes a number of different cases for the iPhone, and some like their Commuter series, are quite slim.

Really, it's a matter of personal taste. You should buy the one you like best within your comfortable price range.

Moore lives in rural Nova Scotia without cell coverage.

I don't have an iPhone. Coverage by Apple's Canadian service partner, Rogers Wireless, ends about 35 miles north of here. My daughter's iPhone 3G will work for the Internet here on my home WiFi, but no cell, texting, or GSM, so it's not really sensible owning one here.


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