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In response to Flash Memory Really Boost PowerBook Performance (among other articles we've posted on the topic), Ron MacKinnon writes:
I've experimented with a CF card in my 3400. I've also upgraded the hard drive, and the memory is maxed at 144 MB. I tried a CF card in the PC Card slot as cache RAM for my browsers and was less than dazzled by the performance. My hard drive (a 4 GB IBM unit) says it can present data at 8.1 MB per second. I don't know how fast that Kanga owner's drive is, but I think it's safe to say that it's as fast as or faster than mine.
After seeing such a lack of improvement with the CF card, I did a little research. I discovered that most CF cards can present data at up to about 4 MB per second and can write at about half that. So cache (and, I presume, virtual memory) on a CF card is about half as fast as using my drive and tossing the CF card in the drawer.
As confirmation of the above, I also tried booting from the CF card. I copied my System folder to the card after initializing it as a drive. I then selected it as my boot device and let it go. Boot time from the card was about twice the boot time from my hard drive. Granted, it was quiet, but very slow. So my CF card is in the drawer awaiting some other use.
Hope this helps.
Responding to the March 31 mailbag column, Ken Cavaliere-Klick writes:
Great articles. Maybe because I am new to the whole Apple "thing"
by way of a rescued Bondi iMac I
don't
have
the excitement, enthusiasm or deep rooted devotion to the platform.
It's a great platform, to be sure, great enough for me to shelve my
Windows computer. (That says something right there - I shelved a
Windows computer in favor of a Bondi running 9.2.2.)
I've used and/or owned a lot of computers over the years. This one is "just right," to steal a line from Goldilocks.
I'm not fond of X. It's too "Windows." Too many gadgets, too many widgets, too many effects, too many "i's." It's not enough to sell me on Unix and virtual machines; I know about that kind of thing.
I do scratch my head wondering who thought of combining QuickTime and Acrobat to make a front end for fast, speedy Unix. But it is what it is.
I'm not sure what my next computer will be. I had planned a new Apple computer of some sort this past January, but the "no dual booting" put me off. The Jaguar reviews didn't light my lights either. This is no small investment, and I want to feel secure about this. At this point I plan to sit tight, maybe load up YDL3 for the experience, but I have no intention of going back to Windows.
Thanks for the great writing.
Will McAdams comments:
I have been following your beige G3 experience, and I feel your pain. I also have a G3/233, the desktop model. I purchased it in 1998. I have added a Newer Tech G4/400 ZIF upgrade (overclocked it to 433 MHz), added a 20 GB HD, and bumped up the RAM to 512. Then I added a USB & FireWire card to just make it more compatible.
I just made the switch to OS X. I went out and bought a FireWire HD enclosure and a second hard drive and loaded OS X on it via my Pismo laptop. I partitioned the HD to under 8 GB (thanks for that tip), then did my best to optimize OS X before I swapped the two hard drives. It was a risky move, but I went ahead, and it seems to be working fine.
Anyway, here is my problem. I have milked every penny out of my Beige G4. I am so wanting to get an actual G4, one with dual processors. However the prices are so high, I really can't justify it. The lowest Dual G4/500 are selling for $899, but when you bump that up to standards, it is almost worth getting the newer Quicksilver or the MDD. Sigh. So I went ahead and ordered an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI, 256 more RAM, and a SIIG ATA 133 controller card. That cost me under $250, which is way less than $1,400 for a new G4.
I am in the graphics industry and have managed to survive, but I also own a PC, and I know you are partial to Mac and against Windows (my Mac is Windows free as well), but you can't deny the fact that PC parts are soooo much cheaper. I can go out and build a multiprocessor PC for half the price of a Mac, and it will run even faster. The PC world is up to 8x AGP.
I guess the saddest thing is that I saw in a computer store flyer, an ATI PCI Radeon 7000 for a PC selling for $49. I bought mine for $119.
I hope that there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I am holding out until the Expo to see if anything will drop the existing prices of the G4s. My fingers are crossed, as my beige G4 is maxed out.
In response to Angry About OS X, John Konopka writes:
I just read the mailbag column about people's bad experiences with OS X. I am sorry they have had such hard times. We have had almost nothing but great experiences with OS X on five different Macs from slot loading 400 MHz iMacs to a G4 867 tower. I don't know why there are problems with particular computers but it is wrong to generalize and say that OS X works poorly on all computers.
I don't mind paying for OS X upgrades once a year. In fact, I bought an extra copy of Jaguar for my mom. I could have just used my CD to upgrade her iMac but I thought it was worth it to pay Apple for a good product.
Also, looking back in time this is not the first time that older computers were not allowed to upgrade. I believe that the SE/30 and earlier computers had a cutoff at System 7 or there abouts. I think the 68000 CPUs were differentiated from 68030 and 68040 systems.
We also have a 300 MHz Wallstreet but I have not tried to upgrade that to OS X as I don't think it is reasonable. I have OS X on a Pismo 500 and I think that is about the minimum for running X.
Jim Harris holds forth:
To those of you who find the need to complain about nothing:
Why is it that you people don't understand how the world works? You decide to upgrade. Apple is not forcing anyone to do anything... You don't want to pay $129 for a new OS? Then don't.
It is absurd to blame Apple for your cheapness. 10.1 was a free upgrade. The following smaller updates are free (i.e. 10.2.1, 10.2.2, 10.2.3, etc.) iTunes, iMovie, and iPhoto are free!!!
What is wrong with you people? Why does everyone have to complain about this? Since when does Apple owe you anything after you bought a computer?
You people think that somehow you own a part of the company after buying a Mac.
When you buy a Mac, you are buying it with the operating system that is installed, not the ones that are going to come after it. Never does Apple tell you that they will provide you with free software for life.
Get real please. Grow up. Blame yourself for your mistakes.
Don't like OS X? Why did you buy it then? You have an opportunity to use it at Apple retail stores and moreover, you have an opportunity to find out what works well, what doesn't, etc.
How can you get mad at Apple?
I assume that Apple should simply enslave all the people that work there so that you can have it your way and have a free lunch?
Think about the economics of it. There is only so much the company can just give you. Look at all the incredible technologies that are in OS X. They speak for themselves.
I have seen how people come from the Windows world in awe at what the Mac can do and how easily it does it.
I, for one, will gladly pay $129 and even more for Panther. Why? Because there are people hard at work to bring us incredible products.
I understand that I have to pay them in order to get the satisfaction that I do when I install an brand new OS. It is sad to see that people find a need to vent in the way you have, throwing blame at a company that supposedly you love, blah, blah, blah.
If you don't like Apple, it's OS, or its computers, there are plenty of other options for you: Microsoft and a ton of PC manufacturer's would be more than willing to accommodate you and charge you the same way or more for upgrades.
Please, for your own sake, listen to what you are complaining about and try to live happier lives.
Rob Fairchild has this to say:
I'm a regular reader of Low End Mac and have been since discovering it during the summer of 2002. This site in particular was quite influential in feeding my newfound interest in Apple computers. I enjoy the insights that your articles provide, particularly for users of older computers.
I bought an old SE this
summer to get a sense of the Macintosh experience and was so
impressed by what such an old machine could
still
do that I vowed to make my next computer a Mac. I bought a G3
600 iBook this past fall and never looked at computers the same
way again. It is far and away the best computer I have ever used.
So I must say I am quite astonished to read as much as I do in the context of furious Mac users who feel outright betrayed by Apple. While Apple has not been a perfect company, it seems to be held to impossibly high standards. One of the letters I read in the March 31 mailbag went so far into hyperbole as to say that Apple was "far worse than even Enron" because it made the move from OS 9 to OS X and has decided to exclusively market, support, and develop X (and all the versions to come afterwards).
Perhaps my perspective is skewed because I am a new adopter and never had the opportunity to become attached to the older system (or invest heavily in software for it), but I think it's important to remain mindful of the things Apple has done right as well.
For myself, I was a longtime Windows user, and one of the many who was never well disposed towards Macs. My first job as a Web designer had me working on machines running what had to be OS 8 many years ago, and I hated it. Like anyone exposed to a new operating system, I found it cumbersome, counterintuitive, and slow. I was also a technically oriented user who preferred to muck about inside the machine and spent years swearing he'd never invest in an "out-of-the-box" computer - especially not a Mac.
Contrast this to the my experience in the summer past, when some articles and advertising about the new Unix-centred OS, the stylish iPod, the ease of networking, and (above all else) the fanatically devoted users persuaded me to give the Mac a second chance. The "switchers" campaign has been somewhat less intensive here in Canada, but the concept certainly made an impact.
I began reading up on the platform, the company, their shared history, and the modern state of Apple computers and its software. I played around on my old SE and admitted it was really an elegant concept.
I'd had enough of Windows and the attendant system failures, security holes, driver updates, and the inherent instability. I've never regretted the switch for a second. |
My computer is elegant, stable, simple, and beautiful. I have found OS X to far surpass any Windows environment in terms of security, stability, ease of use, and functionality, up to and including XP. While it is only 6 months old, it has never yet given me a bit of trouble, despite being used intensively at school and all the knocking about that entails.
This is far more than I can say about my Windows desktop machine. Within a few months of buying it, I had to have the power supply replaced, and now I have to replace the darn thing again. Let alone the nightmare of trying to add new hardware to the machine and wrestling for hours with drivers and software updates to get it to work properly (particularly when I can now simply plug my iBook into something and, well, it just works).
I feel like a walking advertisement for Apple in all my law classes, or wherever I go for that matter. People constantly want to touch, hold, and use the machine and have no end of questions about it. My school is a sea of Dells, and when colleagues complain about their computers because they're heavy, noisy, unreliable, drain the batteries too quickly, and the customer support at Toshiba or HP (or wherever) treats them like crap even in the face of a design flaw, I'm reminded again of why I made the right choice. More than one person has said they would have bought a Mac - except someone told them they were too expensive or weren't compatible with anything, and I like to set them straight on such points.
As much as my experience is limited and anecdotal, I felt like I had to speak up. I know that a lot of users are just frustrated and angry by Apple's about-faces on various policies (like .mac) and its overcharging for upgrades to the OS, but there are lots of happy users out there, too, and we shouldn't lose sight of that.
Kevin Bataille
It's always fun to see what people have to say on your site about OS X. I guess the people that still think OS 9 is faster than X only use one app at a time or are running it on underpowered systems. For those of your readers that are having speed problems with X, you should be telling them how to upgrade their systems to handle X.
I have an old 7500, and it runs X v10.2.4 fine. The key is that [OS X] likes to have lots of memory and drive space. I've been upgrading my system for years. Now it has 768 megs of RAM, a UW2 SCSI card with two 18 gig drives, an ATI Radeon card, and a 450 MHz G4 card.
If you want to run X on anything lower than a B&W G3 Mac and don't want to spend much money, load up on RAM.
I just wish your site had a more positive tone. It does no one any good to just bitch about performance issues without offering ways to help your readers overcome the issues. The facts are that OS X is the current Mac OS and all development is going into it and not OS 9. This is true with both Apple and other software developers. OS X requires more computer horsepower than OS 9.
OS X is far better than anything on the Windows side for a current Mac user. Apple software updates are far cheeper than Windows upgrades. No one but SJ knows how much Panther will cost. The IBM 970 won't run on anything lower than Panther V10.3.0
Christopher Iwane
I think a lot of the complaining about OS X would go away if people stopped trying to run it on anything less than a G4 and faced the truth that early adopters of technology always get burned.
When OS X came out, I loaded it onto my B&W G3. Three months later I'd sold my Mac and was using Windows 2000 on a home-built dual-PII/400. A few weeks ago I loaded 10.2 onto a G4 iMac at work, and within days it was my primary work computer. I'm even hankering for one at home, though I have no real need for it as my PC (now running Windows XP) is still more than capably handling what I throw at it.
The answer, ultimately, is to use whatever works for you and not be so silly as to pledge allegiance to a company.
Windows has given me less trouble than any flavor of Mac OS that I threw at my B&W G3 and gave me back the stability I lost when I upgraded to the B&W from a IIcx.
I see all of the Windows-bashing taking place and, for the most part, it's ridiculous. I started using Windows 2000 just weeks after it was released, and the improvement over Windows 98 or Windows NT Workstation was immediately evident; this was not the case in comparing Mac OS X to Mac OS 9 when most people couldn't stop complaining about issues such as speed and application compatibility.
At this point Windows vs. Mac is a toss-up. There's isn't a significant enough difference between the two platforms to make it worth arguing about. In both cases you'll get a stable, mature OS with a wide selection of applications running on hardware fast enough to almost always make the user the bottleneck.
Gotta run. All this thought about Macs has made me want to fire up my 128K.
Good old anoymous (yes, it's always the same person) knows where to put the blame when OS X seems slow:
Mac OS X isn't slow, anymore than Mac OS 9 isn't slow after you rebuild the desktop. To learn what you need to do to make sure Mac OS X stays optimized, visit:
http://www.macmaps.com/Macosxspeed.html
I have a PowerBook G3/233 with 512k backside and an iMac G4 800 MHz. On neither machine is Mac OS X slower than Mac OS 9.
Obviously there is something wrong with the setup of the people whose machines is slowing to a crawl. They should look at the optimizing routines on the above website to make sure their machine doesn't go to a crawl.
After reading Good News and Bad News About the Jaguar Update and Other Thoughts on OS X, Jack Russell says:
As always, a great column. In reading your thoughts on the dock, I agree completely with your comments. Especially about similar shaped and colored icons. The best solution I have found to dock management is TinkerTool, which let's you place the dock at the top.
It pretty much keeps it out of the way for most all the applications I use and when it's hidden it's hard to accidently click it with the mouse. You might want to give it a try. I found it a little counter intuitive at first, but now I am very comfortable and efficient with the dock at the top.
It's a nice freeware option for the dock.
In response to the same article, Eric McCann writes:
Two things caught my eye - I can't afford a new (or recently-used) Mac - the economy where I am makes the rest of the country look fat and happy - but I had to comment on these:
This sounds suspiciously like Microsoft Chat - something MS (wisely) dropped by Win98. You would essentially go to IRC (you could possibly use it directly, like most IMs, but I really don't recall right offhand), and it would give everything in a cartoon-strip-like interface. The problem is, for other people using IRC (Internet Relay Chat) it would introduce some weird characters. And given how fast IRC chats can go, I couldn't see keeping up with it in a "Cartoon" interface.
My bet, don't plan on seeing it like that for long.
Ever use BeOS? Something similar existed there - "People." Every person was a file, essentially, and given Be's searching capabilities, it had the potential to be very powerful. (Or cluttered.) Be was modularlized, something that makes me wish Apple had purchased it anyway instead of Palm (of course, if they'd buy Palm...) There were other addins that could be used across any application, such as a spell checker, as well.
The thing that will make this (or any "module" like this) is application support. If a good number of Mac developers (say, Qualcomm with Eudora, Apple's Mail, perhaps some enterprising Maczilla developer, etc.) decide to use it as a source for addresses and contact information, it could be very powerful. Or we could end up with it being roundly ignored, and every application (say, contact management, email, PDA sync. software) having its own address book and being thoroughly inconvenient. It'll have to at least have its data accessible for Classic apps as well, which I think will slow anything like this happening - they'd need to be rewritten (or updated) for that, and I don't see that happening.
Just my two (maybe six) cents.
Mike Jarve
I must say that I thoroughly enjoy your site, and you are a credit to all Mac users everywhere. It is one of three sites that I always find time to visit every day, the others being StarTrek.com and Tom's Hardware Guide. I have been reading your piece on the unfortunate practice of Apple not fulfilling its obligations when it comes to OS upgrades and other readers' responses.
I own several fine specimens of Macintosh. I actually collect them as a hobby. Among them are a P'Book G3 WallStreet 233 (with lv2 cache), and the crown jewel and workhorse of my collection, a Power Macintosh 8600/200.
Here we have what I consider to be the last two great generations of Macintosh. These were, for lack of a better term, the "geek" Macs. The ones that are now disregarded as being old hat. The ones sitting in a closet or propping up a table.
Without further ado, here are my two cents: Now here is the disturbing part. The "officially unsupported" Power Mac 8600/200 actually runs OS X better than my "officially supported" P'Book G3! I do have to admit that some of the specs of the 8600 far surpass those of the WallStreet (480 MB RAM vs. 256 MB, 10,000 RPM SCSI HDD vs. 5400 RPM IDE, etc.), but that is not the point.
There is no sense in powerful 604 machines not being supported, at least in name, by OS X. Throw in a G3/G4 upgrade card and maybe an ATI Radeon 7000, and you have a six-year-old Mac that can run all the latest software - and competently at that. That is but for one little problem: "officially unsupported." Two little words that draw a stark line between the world of compatibility with the next generation OS and being an extinct dinosaur, trying to hold together a glorious era with patches and hacks (thank you XPostFacto!).
I also decided to forbid myself from making Wintel compairisons, but I may save that for another day ;-)
I may be one of the last Macintosh dinosaurs, clinging desperately to an existence that is no more. I am trying to squeeze out every last bit of life out of my poor Power Mac 8600. I do admit, if I squeeze much harder, it may break. But why not? I all but mortgaged my birthday to get it!
While the PM 8600 is not the oldest Mac in the book, it is from what I consider to be the heyday of Macintosh design. Much in the same way a classic car aficionado may prefer a 1948 Buick Roadmaster to a new Volkswagen Beetle, I prefer the almost 1920s sky-scraper design of the Power Mac 8600/9600/G3MT to the sleek, translucent, and soft-edged appearance of the new G4s and iMacs.
But that is not entirely it. I think that there is a certain pride to owning an older, high-end Mac.
Well, that's another dozen emails down. I'll try to do the same tomorrow.

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